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	<title>Comments on: RegisterFly update: 11 May</title>
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		<title>By: ICANN Secures Contempt Order Against Registerfly &#124; Dave Zan's Domain Name Blog</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-3444</link>
		<dc:creator>ICANN Secures Contempt Order Against Registerfly &#124; Dave Zan's Domain Name Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] http://blog.icann.org/?p=127 ICANNâ€™s motion for civil contempt against RegisterFly has been granted by the court. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] <a href="http://blog.icann.org/?p=127" rel="nofollow">http://blog.icann.org/?p=127</a> ICANNâ€™s motion for civil contempt against RegisterFly has been granted by the court. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-2192</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Jun 2007 15:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All problems relating to the transfer of RF domain names appear to have been resolved .. GoDaddy.com are now in control of the Registerfly domain names ... in my case i was able to renew all of the names that were due to expire with RF the transition process to Godaddy.com went smoothly ... i hope that everybody else has the same good experience ...  

Congrats to Icann for whatever part (which i am sure was considerable) they have played in this successfull outcome ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All problems relating to the transfer of RF domain names appear to have been resolved .. GoDaddy.com are now in control of the Registerfly domain names &#8230; in my case i was able to renew all of the names that were due to expire with RF the transition process to Godaddy.com went smoothly &#8230; i hope that everybody else has the same good experience &#8230;  </p>
<p>Congrats to Icann for whatever part (which i am sure was considerable) they have played in this successfull outcome &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-1887</link>
		<dc:creator>Karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2007 03:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is interesting to read these comments.  Thank you Kierin and Max. I now have a much better understanding of what is going on. While I have insight regarding my original question concerning jail time, I am now baffled as to why this situation with Registerfly has not received more media attention than the Business Week article. It seems that a scam this unprecedented and of this magnitude would be of concern and interest to many.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is interesting to read these comments.  Thank you Kierin and Max. I now have a much better understanding of what is going on. While I have insight regarding my original question concerning jail time, I am now baffled as to why this situation with Registerfly has not received more media attention than the Business Week article. It seems that a scam this unprecedented and of this magnitude would be of concern and interest to many.</p>
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		<title>By: Max</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-1880</link>
		<dc:creator>Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 May 2007 08:57:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike: you or anyone else who pays funds into their Reisterfly.com account for renewal of domain names or for any other service/s that they offer can kiss your money goodbye. 

Interestingly enough a very large and infuential web site Americanthinker.com was able to recover it&#039;s domain name from Registerfly: 

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/recovering_our_web_address.html

I also take note that this blog has not been updated since May 16 the day after Kieran McCarthy stated above that he would have some news re the transfer of Registerfly names to another registrar:

 *Comment by Kieren McCarthy 
2007-05-14 14:34:18 
Hi Diane,

I hope to be able to give a proper update tomorrow. Sorry I can’t do so today.

Kieren McCarthy
General manager of public participation, ICANN *

Any News would be appreciated please Kieran.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike: you or anyone else who pays funds into their Reisterfly.com account for renewal of domain names or for any other service/s that they offer can kiss your money goodbye. </p>
<p>Interestingly enough a very large and infuential web site Americanthinker.com was able to recover it&#8217;s domain name from Registerfly: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/recovering_our_web_address.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/04/recovering_our_web_address.html</a></p>
<p>I also take note that this blog has not been updated since May 16 the day after Kieran McCarthy stated above that he would have some news re the transfer of Registerfly names to another registrar:</p>
<p> *Comment by Kieren McCarthy<br />
2007-05-14 14:34:18<br />
Hi Diane,</p>
<p>I hope to be able to give a proper update tomorrow. Sorry I can’t do so today.</p>
<p>Kieren McCarthy<br />
General manager of public participation, ICANN *</p>
<p>Any News would be appreciated please Kieran.</p>
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		<title>By: enlarge</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-1863</link>
		<dc:creator>enlarge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 19:06:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike..don&#039;t add any money to registerfly. I just lost quite a bit ..they are issuing receipts for misc services instead of renewals. Just keep trying to get rest of your domains out of there..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike..don&#8217;t add any money to registerfly. I just lost quite a bit ..they are issuing receipts for misc services instead of renewals. Just keep trying to get rest of your domains out of there..</p>
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		<title>By: domain names</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-1862</link>
		<dc:creator>domain names</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2007 19:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep after them about unlocking...and keep checking every few hours if the protectfly has been removed from your domain names...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep after them about unlocking&#8230;and keep checking every few hours if the protectfly has been removed from your domain names&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Aldridge</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-1813</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Aldridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 21:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve discovered all this only recently, when my site wouldn&#039;t renew. Its now expired and was a PR5 so I don&#039;t want to lose it. Can anyone advise on what I should do? Just wait and see or is there any way to prevent the site falling into opportunists hands?
I just put $25 in to registerfly to pay for renewals as well!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve discovered all this only recently, when my site wouldn&#8217;t renew. Its now expired and was a PR5 so I don&#8217;t want to lose it. Can anyone advise on what I should do? Just wait and see or is there any way to prevent the site falling into opportunists hands?<br />
I just put $25 in to registerfly to pay for renewals as well!</p>
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		<title>By: Ser.G</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-1812</link>
		<dc:creator>Ser.G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2007 21:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really don&#039;t get it, 

I understand someone who own a couple of domains and didn&#039;t realize what was going on at RF, but when  hearing people saying having dozens and perhaps hundreds of  domains stuck at RF , hijacked, unable to move them out by now , I&#039;m astonished!!

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ? 

This saga unfolded for a  year and took a high steem the last 3-4 months, so, if you had so many domains at RF, how the heck you didn&#039;t Think to move them out FAST ? 

A lot was said at forums about what was happening at RF and at list one website,  REGISTERFLIES made a great effort to Warning RF customers.

I saw the warnings, and I took immediate action , so I managed to move out of RF all my  remaining 50 domains just in time before unlock codes and data were wiped out.

However, I went also through rough times till this was accomplished.

I want to NOTE a few more things, critics and credits

ENOM took full advantage of RF victims including myself,  ripping us off even further by charging 30 dollars renewal fees on domains that were already paid renewal fees to Registerfly. 

I had to pay $120 to ENOM to rescue 4 domains kept hostage by them in complicity with REGISTERFLY

Perhaps  ENOM may have reversed that policy now( after realizing  the class lawsuits that will fall on them) but few months ago, they made sure to get as much cash as they could out of RF crisis.
ENOM helped RF to keep our domains hostages.

ICANN was well warned, notified, informed of Registerfly unlawful methods, long ago, since over a year at list and did nothing till recently.  Tons of Complains were sent to ICANN .

Now ICANN is  very active trying to solve the problem , GREAT , finally,  ( perhaps to reduce liability) but, WHY not a year ago ?
As somebody said before, too little and too late!!!! people have lost millions!!

Finally, there is someone who I will really want to credit , these are the guys behind REGISTERFLIES.com website. 

THANK YOU VERY MUCH Registerflies  for your support and updates, you are the ones who have really helped save my domains and hundreds of others..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really don&#8217;t get it, </p>
<p>I understand someone who own a couple of domains and didn&#8217;t realize what was going on at RF, but when  hearing people saying having dozens and perhaps hundreds of  domains stuck at RF , hijacked, unable to move them out by now , I&#8217;m astonished!!</p>
<p>WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ? </p>
<p>This saga unfolded for a  year and took a high steem the last 3-4 months, so, if you had so many domains at RF, how the heck you didn&#8217;t Think to move them out FAST ? </p>
<p>A lot was said at forums about what was happening at RF and at list one website,  REGISTERFLIES made a great effort to Warning RF customers.</p>
<p>I saw the warnings, and I took immediate action , so I managed to move out of RF all my  remaining 50 domains just in time before unlock codes and data were wiped out.</p>
<p>However, I went also through rough times till this was accomplished.</p>
<p>I want to NOTE a few more things, critics and credits</p>
<p>ENOM took full advantage of RF victims including myself,  ripping us off even further by charging 30 dollars renewal fees on domains that were already paid renewal fees to Registerfly. </p>
<p>I had to pay $120 to ENOM to rescue 4 domains kept hostage by them in complicity with REGISTERFLY</p>
<p>Perhaps  ENOM may have reversed that policy now( after realizing  the class lawsuits that will fall on them) but few months ago, they made sure to get as much cash as they could out of RF crisis.<br />
ENOM helped RF to keep our domains hostages.</p>
<p>ICANN was well warned, notified, informed of Registerfly unlawful methods, long ago, since over a year at list and did nothing till recently.  Tons of Complains were sent to ICANN .</p>
<p>Now ICANN is  very active trying to solve the problem , GREAT , finally,  ( perhaps to reduce liability) but, WHY not a year ago ?<br />
As somebody said before, too little and too late!!!! people have lost millions!!</p>
<p>Finally, there is someone who I will really want to credit , these are the guys behind REGISTERFLIES.com website. </p>
<p>THANK YOU VERY MUCH Registerflies  for your support and updates, you are the ones who have really helped save my domains and hundreds of others..</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Zan</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-1754</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Zan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 02:29:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;OK Great ! NOW ICANN Why havent you Acted? Where is the Law? CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY THE REGISTERFLY SITE IS STILL IN OPERATION????????????&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Uh, I guess ICANN&#039;s not securing a court order and serving it on Registerfly isn&#039;t acting? The law&#039;s there, it&#039;s a matter of how soon it&#039;s implemented.

ICANN is focused on trying to obtain the domain registration data and cutting off Registerfly&#039;s registrar accreditation. Beyond that and some people are possibly expecting too much from them.

Mike G, not sure what you&#039;re referring to, but that sounds like the 45-day period where a registrar is &quot;ideally&quot; allowed to hold on to an expired domain name before having it deleted (except for extenuating circumstances like locking it due to bankruptcy). In theory, Registerfly will delete the expired domain name within up to 45 days after expiration, but that&#039;s if they don&#039;t do something to it first while it&#039;s still in their database.

For those already deleted, ICANN requested the involved Registries to suspend their cycles until this is sorted out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8220;OK Great ! NOW ICANN Why havent you Acted? Where is the Law? CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHY THE REGISTERFLY SITE IS STILL IN OPERATION????????????&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>Uh, I guess ICANN&#8217;s not securing a court order and serving it on Registerfly isn&#8217;t acting? The law&#8217;s there, it&#8217;s a matter of how soon it&#8217;s implemented.</p>
<p>ICANN is focused on trying to obtain the domain registration data and cutting off Registerfly&#8217;s registrar accreditation. Beyond that and some people are possibly expecting too much from them.</p>
<p>Mike G, not sure what you&#8217;re referring to, but that sounds like the 45-day period where a registrar is &#8220;ideally&#8221; allowed to hold on to an expired domain name before having it deleted (except for extenuating circumstances like locking it due to bankruptcy). In theory, Registerfly will delete the expired domain name within up to 45 days after expiration, but that&#8217;s if they don&#8217;t do something to it first while it&#8217;s still in their database.</p>
<p>For those already deleted, ICANN requested the involved Registries to suspend their cycles until this is sorted out.</p>
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		<title>By: JD</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2007/05/registerfly-update-11-may/comment-page-1/#comment-1747</link>
		<dc:creator>JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 20:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am a victim.  I have two domains that expired after my renewal failed.  I have tried to transfer domains with no luck and half of my older domains have no auth key or contact info now.  One of my domains has a registerfly admin contact to someone at bluebottle.com?  I have been waiting over two weeks for a response from RF so I guess I won&#039;t get my hopes up.  I think everyone that has domains that are down and losing money should get free registration for those domains for life from ICANN.  They manage them and oversee everything and I think they should be held liable also for our losses.  ICANN can you give us a daily update?  I am calculating probably a loss of at least $100,000,000 a day for people that have sites with Registerfly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am a victim.  I have two domains that expired after my renewal failed.  I have tried to transfer domains with no luck and half of my older domains have no auth key or contact info now.  One of my domains has a registerfly admin contact to someone at bluebottle.com?  I have been waiting over two weeks for a response from RF so I guess I won&#8217;t get my hopes up.  I think everyone that has domains that are down and losing money should get free registration for those domains for life from ICANN.  They manage them and oversee everything and I think they should be held liable also for our losses.  ICANN can you give us a daily update?  I am calculating probably a loss of at least $100,000,000 a day for people that have sites with Registerfly.</p>
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