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		<title>By: Comment on When can I register domain names under IDN TLDs? by &#8230; &#183; Domain Pimp</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/when-can-i-register-domain-names-under-idn-tlds/comment-page-1/#comment-12014</link>
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		<title>By: Domaining - Information on Domains and Domaining &#187; Comment on When can I register domain names under IDN TLDs? by &#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Domaining - Information on Domains and Domaining &#187; Comment on When can I register domain names under IDN TLDs? by &#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Feb 2008 01:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Tina Dam</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/when-can-i-register-domain-names-under-idn-tlds/comment-page-1/#comment-11959</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 20:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Imran,
thanks for your questions.

The simplest answer to your questions, i believe is to let you know that the ccTLD delegation and redelegations are following the IANA procedures available at http://www.iana.org/domains/root/cctld/ (this does not include IDNs at the top level, but the registries can offcourse implement IDNs at second level, which several have done).

I have not heard the division of TLDs into the pTLd and cTLDs as you mention. usually they are referred to as ccTLDs (country code) and gTLDs (generic).


I agree with you that it would be useful for the registrar to have whois and search capabilities available for IDNs. It is not all registrars that offer IDN registrations, however I will mention this to ICANN&#039;s registrar liaison team and see if we can provide the registrars as a group with some information to this extent.

Tina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Imran,<br />
thanks for your questions.</p>
<p>The simplest answer to your questions, i believe is to let you know that the ccTLD delegation and redelegations are following the IANA procedures available at <a href="http://www.iana.org/domains/root/cctld/" rel="nofollow">http://www.iana.org/domains/root/cctld/</a> (this does not include IDNs at the top level, but the registries can offcourse implement IDNs at second level, which several have done).</p>
<p>I have not heard the division of TLDs into the pTLd and cTLDs as you mention. usually they are referred to as ccTLDs (country code) and gTLDs (generic).</p>
<p>I agree with you that it would be useful for the registrar to have whois and search capabilities available for IDNs. It is not all registrars that offer IDN registrations, however I will mention this to ICANN&#8217;s registrar liaison team and see if we can provide the registrars as a group with some information to this extent.</p>
<p>Tina</p>
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		<title>By: Staff</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/when-can-i-register-domain-names-under-idn-tlds/comment-page-1/#comment-11863</link>
		<dc:creator>Staff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UrduWare.com proudly presents domain name registration in Urdu language with additional support for over 100 languages though the provider. Just visit &lt;a&gt;, type in your urdu name and search which will take you to &lt;a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UrduWare.com proudly presents domain name registration in Urdu language with additional support for over 100 languages though the provider. Just visit <a>, type in your urdu name and search which will take you to </a><a></a></p>
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		<title>By: Imran Ahmed Shah</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/when-can-i-register-domain-names-under-idn-tlds/comment-page-1/#comment-11862</link>
		<dc:creator>Imran Ahmed Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:30:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A question from my fried is forwarded to me that I did not mentiond the website name in which we enabled Urdu Typing and Domain Name Search facility, So please find hereunder URL Link to access to Type, Search and finally register your International Domain Name (IDN) in Urdu Language with .com and .net:

This facility is available at http://www.urduware.com

Best Regards,

Thanks

Imran Ahmed Shah
ias_pk@yahoo.com
imran.shah@urduware.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A question from my fried is forwarded to me that I did not mentiond the website name in which we enabled Urdu Typing and Domain Name Search facility, So please find hereunder URL Link to access to Type, Search and finally register your International Domain Name (IDN) in Urdu Language with .com and .net:</p>
<p>This facility is available at <a href="http://www.urduware.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.urduware.com</a></p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Imran Ahmed Shah<br />
<a href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a><br />
<a href="mailto:imran.shah@urduware.com">imran.shah@urduware.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Imran Ahmed Shah</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/when-can-i-register-domain-names-under-idn-tlds/comment-page-1/#comment-11859</link>
		<dc:creator>Imran Ahmed Shah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:30:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Tina
Thank you for your reply. We understand that the registration process for gTLD &amp; IDN TLDs are still un-covered and in Policy Preparation phases.

Please inform that is there any other type of TLD Registration e.g. ccTLD, Corporate TLD (cTLD), Public TLD (pTLD) and/or IDN-CC TLD is open with any of Internet Management Organization now a days? 

And please also inform that are these a valid classification of TLDs? if yes, who manage their registrations and policies (e.g. IANA or ICANN or any third organization): 
1. Corporate TLD (cTLD), 
2. Public TLD (pTLD).

Some other companies e.g. TLD.NAME &amp; UnifiedRoot.com are also claiming that they are providing facility to register new Corporate TLD (cTLD), 
Public TLD (pTLD), where as there is reference found on IANA and ICANN for these categories.

Another information to share with the readers of this blog who belongs to Asian countries (exclusively for use in Pakistan and India Sub-Continent Region) that we have configured our website home page (last night) to provide facility to type in Urdu Language for the purpose of IDN domain name. Now if some one type &quot;اروکتب&quot; (translation of Urdu Books) and try to search,  the interlinked page will provide the facility to search domain name with .com TLD and if the IDN.com is available, it can be processed for immediate registration. Its Pakistan&#039;s first local language domain name provider.

I propose ICANN to ask their approved Registrars to provide the similar facility on their Domain Registration, Search and Who-Is pages to as an Editor for Urdu type Asian Languages to facilitate IDN International Domain Names. 

Thanks

Imran Ahmed Shah
ias_pk@yahoo.com
imran.shah@urduware.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tina<br />
Thank you for your reply. We understand that the registration process for gTLD &amp; IDN TLDs are still un-covered and in Policy Preparation phases.</p>
<p>Please inform that is there any other type of TLD Registration e.g. ccTLD, Corporate TLD (cTLD), Public TLD (pTLD) and/or IDN-CC TLD is open with any of Internet Management Organization now a days? </p>
<p>And please also inform that are these a valid classification of TLDs? if yes, who manage their registrations and policies (e.g. IANA or ICANN or any third organization):<br />
1. Corporate TLD (cTLD),<br />
2. Public TLD (pTLD).</p>
<p>Some other companies e.g. TLD.NAME &amp; UnifiedRoot.com are also claiming that they are providing facility to register new Corporate TLD (cTLD),<br />
Public TLD (pTLD), where as there is reference found on IANA and ICANN for these categories.</p>
<p>Another information to share with the readers of this blog who belongs to Asian countries (exclusively for use in Pakistan and India Sub-Continent Region) that we have configured our website home page (last night) to provide facility to type in Urdu Language for the purpose of IDN domain name. Now if some one type &#8220;اروکتب&#8221; (translation of Urdu Books) and try to search,  the interlinked page will provide the facility to search domain name with .com TLD and if the IDN.com is available, it can be processed for immediate registration. Its Pakistan&#8217;s first local language domain name provider.</p>
<p>I propose ICANN to ask their approved Registrars to provide the similar facility on their Domain Registration, Search and Who-Is pages to as an Editor for Urdu type Asian Languages to facilitate IDN International Domain Names. </p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Imran Ahmed Shah<br />
<a href="mailto:ias_pk@yahoo.com">ias_pk@yahoo.com</a><br />
<a href="mailto:imran.shah@urduware.com">imran.shah@urduware.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tina Dam</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/when-can-i-register-domain-names-under-idn-tlds/comment-page-1/#comment-11858</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Frankiesaysimpeach,
based on your opinion on &quot;IDN ccTLDs&quot; im guessing that you have not been part of the policy development work, nor the IDNA protocol work that is currently ongoing. Both areas have a large number of individuals working close to 24/7 trying to make this work for the global community and the issues to solve are not very easy. 

As such your opinion does not seem very valid to me.

Tina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Frankiesaysimpeach,<br />
based on your opinion on &#8220;IDN ccTLDs&#8221; im guessing that you have not been part of the policy development work, nor the IDNA protocol work that is currently ongoing. Both areas have a large number of individuals working close to 24/7 trying to make this work for the global community and the issues to solve are not very easy. </p>
<p>As such your opinion does not seem very valid to me.</p>
<p>Tina</p>
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		<title>By: FrankieSaysImpeach</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/when-can-i-register-domain-names-under-idn-tlds/comment-page-1/#comment-11834</link>
		<dc:creator>FrankieSaysImpeach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 23:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;ICANN is not a marketing service for domain related products.

Yes. ICANN doesn&#039;t market Verisign&#039;s perpetual ownership of .com and the continual annual increases in registry fees (even when others offered to run it for $2 p.a. or less), they just ENABLE it.

But anyway, it doesn&#039;t take an Einstein to figure out that IDN ccTLD&#039;s for Japan, China and Korea could have been added to the root yesterday but for the whining of immature people from other countries/languages who won&#039;t allow progress unless their chosen hobby horse is included immediately.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;ICANN is not a marketing service for domain related products.</p>
<p>Yes. ICANN doesn&#8217;t market Verisign&#8217;s perpetual ownership of .com and the continual annual increases in registry fees (even when others offered to run it for $2 p.a. or less), they just ENABLE it.</p>
<p>But anyway, it doesn&#8217;t take an Einstein to figure out that IDN ccTLD&#8217;s for Japan, China and Korea could have been added to the root yesterday but for the whining of immature people from other countries/languages who won&#8217;t allow progress unless their chosen hobby horse is included immediately.</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Dam</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/when-can-i-register-domain-names-under-idn-tlds/comment-page-1/#comment-11746</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Imran,
thanks for your note. Suggestions, comments and questions are always welcomed.

On the staff side my collegueas are working hard to make the introduction of new gTLDs happen as quickly as possible. Annnouncements will be made on www.icann.org.

Re the fees, these have not be set yet, but are being worked on in order to cover the expenses related with the process. The reference you are making was for the round in 2000, where 7 new gTLDs were introduced. It is not possible to say how this will compare to this round, at least not yet.

ICANN has no relationship with the company you are referring to. We also cannot block content or take down sites - this is not within ICANNs mandate. However, i pass this information on the to team at ICANN working on the process of introduction of new gTLDs.

About the translations, the procss for new gTLDs (incl IDNs) has specified that being a current operator for a gTLD does not give automatic rights to the translated or transliterated version of the TLD. So a translation mechanism is not something that will be managed centrally at ICANN. Strings that are applied for though can go through an objection mechanism and will be checked for confusingly similarity. as such existing registries can object to others getting a TLD assigned that is cionfusingly similar to an existing TLD. Other than that it is up to each registry operator to decide if they want to apply for a translated string corresponding to their existing TLD. 

I hope this helps. You may want to revisit some of the presentations from Delhi for further information. For example, http://delhi.icann.org/workshop/14feb08/gtlds and the new gTLD presentations at http://delhi.icann.org/14feb08/public-forum

Best regards,
Tina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Imran,<br />
thanks for your note. Suggestions, comments and questions are always welcomed.</p>
<p>On the staff side my collegueas are working hard to make the introduction of new gTLDs happen as quickly as possible. Annnouncements will be made on <a href="http://www.icann.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.icann.org</a>.</p>
<p>Re the fees, these have not be set yet, but are being worked on in order to cover the expenses related with the process. The reference you are making was for the round in 2000, where 7 new gTLDs were introduced. It is not possible to say how this will compare to this round, at least not yet.</p>
<p>ICANN has no relationship with the company you are referring to. We also cannot block content or take down sites &#8211; this is not within ICANNs mandate. However, i pass this information on the to team at ICANN working on the process of introduction of new gTLDs.</p>
<p>About the translations, the procss for new gTLDs (incl IDNs) has specified that being a current operator for a gTLD does not give automatic rights to the translated or transliterated version of the TLD. So a translation mechanism is not something that will be managed centrally at ICANN. Strings that are applied for though can go through an objection mechanism and will be checked for confusingly similarity. as such existing registries can object to others getting a TLD assigned that is cionfusingly similar to an existing TLD. Other than that it is up to each registry operator to decide if they want to apply for a translated string corresponding to their existing TLD. </p>
<p>I hope this helps. You may want to revisit some of the presentations from Delhi for further information. For example, <a href="http://delhi.icann.org/workshop/14feb08/gtlds" rel="nofollow">http://delhi.icann.org/workshop/14feb08/gtlds</a> and the new gTLD presentations at <a href="http://delhi.icann.org/14feb08/public-forum" rel="nofollow">http://delhi.icann.org/14feb08/public-forum</a></p>
<p>Best regards,<br />
Tina</p>
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		<title>By: Tina Dam</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/02/when-can-i-register-domain-names-under-idn-tlds/comment-page-1/#comment-11745</link>
		<dc:creator>Tina Dam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bill,
i think we pretty much are in agreement. If you see the latter part of my initial reply I said:

&quot;However, in the work related to idn tlds icann staff is trying to be careful about mentioning that we offcourse have had idns for quite some time and that this is the extention of the second level introductions&quot;

However, I thank you for your clarification and I will take your comment back and see if there is something related to this that we can do better.

Tina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bill,<br />
i think we pretty much are in agreement. If you see the latter part of my initial reply I said:</p>
<p>&#8220;However, in the work related to idn tlds icann staff is trying to be careful about mentioning that we offcourse have had idns for quite some time and that this is the extention of the second level introductions&#8221;</p>
<p>However, I thank you for your clarification and I will take your comment back and see if there is something related to this that we can do better.</p>
<p>Tina</p>
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