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		<title>By: Dvd film</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/04/organizational-structure-image-conspiracy-uncovered/comment-page-1/#comment-14407</link>
		<dc:creator>Dvd film</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 15:01:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Kieren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Kieren.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Shelton</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/04/organizational-structure-image-conspiracy-uncovered/comment-page-1/#comment-14279</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Shelton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 21:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kieren,
   I found your humor refreshing, and the backlash to humor even more laughable. Is there a bylaw requiring a graphic in the first place? Having one might be the entire issue these people have, which seems to empower ignorance, misunderstanding, and a slight foothold for a podium in which people can shout to the world,... we are here,.. we are here.
  Lets go back to binary and ascii characters which if arranged in a star pattern will be the sign of the second coming of ignorance :o) You give people a graphic so they can clear up text, then you have to make several more graphics to clear up that graphic, now you have to hold  board meetings to discuss the proposition of making propositions and the implications of implications, where will the madness end :O) I guess my grandfather was correct in who the bigger fool is,.. the fool or the person who argues with the fool. It lends high praise to you that you are concerned with peoples feelings enough to give them your valuable time, even to the point they are simply wanting attention. 
  For me, I don&#039;t know how I will be able to survive not seeing a universally accepted graphic representation of the hierarchical  organization of ICANN. But if there were none, and I had to read it in the bylaws I think by some grace of a higher power, or the superfluous application of pixie dust to my third eye I would make it. This reply is not even worth 2 cents, much less a response, it is to thank you for the smile that brightened my day, and to wish you well in your endeavor to persevere.
 -The Outlaw Josey Wales-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kieren,<br />
   I found your humor refreshing, and the backlash to humor even more laughable. Is there a bylaw requiring a graphic in the first place? Having one might be the entire issue these people have, which seems to empower ignorance, misunderstanding, and a slight foothold for a podium in which people can shout to the world,&#8230; we are here,.. we are here.<br />
  Lets go back to binary and ascii characters which if arranged in a star pattern will be the sign of the second coming of ignorance <img src='http://blog.icann.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_surprised.gif' alt=':o' class='wp-smiley' /> ) You give people a graphic so they can clear up text, then you have to make several more graphics to clear up that graphic, now you have to hold  board meetings to discuss the proposition of making propositions and the implications of implications, where will the madness end :O) I guess my grandfather was correct in who the bigger fool is,.. the fool or the person who argues with the fool. It lends high praise to you that you are concerned with peoples feelings enough to give them your valuable time, even to the point they are simply wanting attention.<br />
  For me, I don&#8217;t know how I will be able to survive not seeing a universally accepted graphic representation of the hierarchical  organization of ICANN. But if there were none, and I had to read it in the bylaws I think by some grace of a higher power, or the superfluous application of pixie dust to my third eye I would make it. This reply is not even worth 2 cents, much less a response, it is to thank you for the smile that brightened my day, and to wish you well in your endeavor to persevere.<br />
 -The Outlaw Josey Wales-</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/04/organizational-structure-image-conspiracy-uncovered/comment-page-1/#comment-14278</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an interesting &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.conspiracybusters.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conspiracy&lt;/a&gt;. Many people should know about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an interesting <a href="http://www.conspiracybusters.com" rel="nofollow">conspiracy</a>. Many people should know about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Cary Cashman</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/04/organizational-structure-image-conspiracy-uncovered/comment-page-1/#comment-14275</link>
		<dc:creator>Cary Cashman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:11:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kieren,

LOL at your original post. Gobsmacked at most of what followed. 

Don’t you ever, ever, EVER let those politically correct, anally retentive, joke free zone, pumped up with their own importance, do-gooder, wouldn’t recognise irony if it was a country with weapons of mass destruction, useless as a chocolate fireplace, plonkers force you to remove the use of humour from as much of what you do as possible. Ever.  

The real irony here is that these people are like small minded, cobweb ridden local councillors arguing over the interpretation of the 1948 Fence Post Size and Colour Ordinance (‘yes Albert…we all respect your enormous depth of knowledge, but it’s not really brown is it… more of a fawn or beige and thus outside of the Ordinance’) whereas in fact the stuff we all do is really important and needs people with expansive minds who can shift from big to small picture in a second. And such people would, of course, actually have a sense of humour!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kieren,</p>
<p>LOL at your original post. Gobsmacked at most of what followed. </p>
<p>Don’t you ever, ever, EVER let those politically correct, anally retentive, joke free zone, pumped up with their own importance, do-gooder, wouldn’t recognise irony if it was a country with weapons of mass destruction, useless as a chocolate fireplace, plonkers force you to remove the use of humour from as much of what you do as possible. Ever.  </p>
<p>The real irony here is that these people are like small minded, cobweb ridden local councillors arguing over the interpretation of the 1948 Fence Post Size and Colour Ordinance (‘yes Albert…we all respect your enormous depth of knowledge, but it’s not really brown is it… more of a fawn or beige and thus outside of the Ordinance’) whereas in fact the stuff we all do is really important and needs people with expansive minds who can shift from big to small picture in a second. And such people would, of course, actually have a sense of humour!</p>
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		<title>By: Marketing en Internet</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/04/organizational-structure-image-conspiracy-uncovered/comment-page-1/#comment-14270</link>
		<dc:creator>Marketing en Internet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:54:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Much better Image Bob!
By the way, excellent 2007 report</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Much better Image Bob!<br />
By the way, excellent 2007 report</p>
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		<title>By: Bret Fausett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret Fausett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 21:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Kieren.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Kieren.</p>
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		<title>By: ICANN organizational structure image conspiracy uncovered &#124; Domainer News - Daily updates from the Domain Industry</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/04/organizational-structure-image-conspiracy-uncovered/comment-page-1/#comment-14261</link>
		<dc:creator>ICANN organizational structure image conspiracy uncovered &#124; Domainer News - Daily updates from the Domain Industry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 00:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Kieren McCarthy</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/04/organizational-structure-image-conspiracy-uncovered/comment-page-1/#comment-14259</link>
		<dc:creator>Kieren McCarthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 19:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brett, as well as Avri (comment above)


This is a good time and spot to get back to you both on this.

I think the unintentional mistake I made here was not to state clearly and upfront that of course we were going to change the graphic. 

There seems to be a genuine concern that the graphic was going to remains as was, and that this blog post was criticising people for wanting it changed.

If that was how people saw this, then I apologise - that was not the case but there&#039;s little doubt I didn&#039;t make that sufficiently clear.

I should also say that I am sorry that this has clearly caused anxiety and irritation where it was never my intention to do so. It is a lesson I have learned and will apply in future.

I hope at least that people will recognise that the page and the graphic is a great improvement on what was there previously. 

I suppose I should also say at this point that I had nothing to do with this graphic, I only took it from the Annual Report and posted it on ICANN&#039;s website in an ongoing effort to make the site up-to-date and more understandable.

I intend to continue improving the website and its content but it is now with a certain amount of trepidation following the number of aggressive and critical emails I have received both internally and externally on this one issue.

Despite the page and its links on the Structure page being exactly the same as they have been for years, there has been a significant number of emails complaining about them. And those complaints have been sent to people all over ICANN, adding to the confusion.

If people want an up-to-date and usable website, I would really urge people to come directly to me and to please approach it from the perspective that all changes are intended only to improve the site and its functioning, and not for any other reason.

All that said, I would like to express for a third time the fact I am sorry that was what intended as a gentle poke has caused annoyance. Some of it was a little over the top but then that&#039;s always the way in ICANN. 

All the best,


Kieren</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brett, as well as Avri (comment above)</p>
<p>This is a good time and spot to get back to you both on this.</p>
<p>I think the unintentional mistake I made here was not to state clearly and upfront that of course we were going to change the graphic. </p>
<p>There seems to be a genuine concern that the graphic was going to remains as was, and that this blog post was criticising people for wanting it changed.</p>
<p>If that was how people saw this, then I apologise &#8211; that was not the case but there&#8217;s little doubt I didn&#8217;t make that sufficiently clear.</p>
<p>I should also say that I am sorry that this has clearly caused anxiety and irritation where it was never my intention to do so. It is a lesson I have learned and will apply in future.</p>
<p>I hope at least that people will recognise that the page and the graphic is a great improvement on what was there previously. </p>
<p>I suppose I should also say at this point that I had nothing to do with this graphic, I only took it from the Annual Report and posted it on ICANN&#8217;s website in an ongoing effort to make the site up-to-date and more understandable.</p>
<p>I intend to continue improving the website and its content but it is now with a certain amount of trepidation following the number of aggressive and critical emails I have received both internally and externally on this one issue.</p>
<p>Despite the page and its links on the Structure page being exactly the same as they have been for years, there has been a significant number of emails complaining about them. And those complaints have been sent to people all over ICANN, adding to the confusion.</p>
<p>If people want an up-to-date and usable website, I would really urge people to come directly to me and to please approach it from the perspective that all changes are intended only to improve the site and its functioning, and not for any other reason.</p>
<p>All that said, I would like to express for a third time the fact I am sorry that was what intended as a gentle poke has caused annoyance. Some of it was a little over the top but then that&#8217;s always the way in ICANN. </p>
<p>All the best,</p>
<p>Kieren</p>
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		<title>By: Bret Fausett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bret Fausett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 18:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate that when dealing with a wide variety of groups and individuals, from all backgrounds and parts of the world, that it is not possible to predict what will cause offense. But when an ICANN mistake does cause offense, regardless of whether it was intended, I think the only possible response is &quot;Let me correct it.&quot; Let those outside of ICANN poke fun when appropriate, but I prefer to see ICANN as serious, humble and service-oriented. 

Bret</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate that when dealing with a wide variety of groups and individuals, from all backgrounds and parts of the world, that it is not possible to predict what will cause offense. But when an ICANN mistake does cause offense, regardless of whether it was intended, I think the only possible response is &#8220;Let me correct it.&#8221; Let those outside of ICANN poke fun when appropriate, but I prefer to see ICANN as serious, humble and service-oriented. </p>
<p>Bret</p>
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		<title>By: Milton</title>
		<link>http://blog.icann.org/2008/04/organizational-structure-image-conspiracy-uncovered/comment-page-1/#comment-14255</link>
		<dc:creator>Milton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 14:17:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great! Good to see some quick change. Thanks for your reply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great! Good to see some quick change. Thanks for your reply.</p>
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